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DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting

by xdem, Wed May 28, 2008 at 08:57:42 PM EST

Different schools of thought here. If they do something other than exactly what she demands, andif Obama passes 2026 next Tuesday, and if Hillary appeals to the Credentials committee, do the Supers do something decisive?
Do they surprise Hillary - give in to her demands, let the votes come in on Tuesday, let the Supers put it out of reach for Obama and - ironically put an end to her campaign by acceding to her silly formula?
Or do they do nothing?

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Re: DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting (none / 0)

50 or something else

should be nothing, but whatever, i can't wait for this to be over.

by Monolithic on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:01:36 PM EST

Re: DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting (2.00 / 1)

Obama 08!

by comingawakening on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:22:13 PM EST
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Zero delegates, baby. (2.00 / 2)

That's the way it should be. Don't punish the other 48 states to appease the Clintons.

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:02:56 PM EST

Re: Zero delegates, baby. (2.00 / 1)

Its sad because Hillary is out there now every day (when we thought she would ride out the last week) telling voters they were disenfranchised by a combination of the media, the DNC, and Obama never once placing the blame on their states who caused it in the first place.

So in principle I say zero delegates, strategically to repair the damage Hillary has caused I say give them half and pretend it never happened.

And if they give out any it MUST be 50/50 split since the elections were not legitimate.

http://www.truepat.org/

by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:09:28 PM EST
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Re: Zero delegates, baby. (none / 0)

If the elections weren't legitimate, shouldn't there be ZERO delegates?

by Mayor McCheese on Thu May 29, 2008 at 12:50:15 PM EST
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They can't do what Hillary wants. (2.00 / 1)

The lawyers have said they can't do more than 50%.

Your old role is rapidly aging. Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand, for the times they are a changing.

by Travis Stark on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:08:54 PM EST

Re: They can't do what Hillary wants. (2.00 / 1)

Thats right, so that answers that.

50% is the max, so if its done it has to be half to hrc and half to BO.

I don't see how illegitmate elections can come into play here, how is that legal?
Someone explain.

http://www.truepat.org/

by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:10:29 PM EST
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Re: They can't do what Hillary wants. (2.00 / 1)

Crush -
Just so everybody is clear there is nothing legal or illegal about MI and FL. These word implies there is some legal remedy. There is not.

Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.

by jsfox on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:26:51 PM EST
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Of course, Lanny Davis proposed... (none / 0)

that if the committee seat only 50%, they seat them starting with Hillary's delegates.

by Pragmatic Left on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:25:02 PM EST
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Re: They can't do what Hillary wants. (none / 0)

But the Clinton campaign says to hell with the lawyers.

Senior Clinton aides disputed the notion that the DNC lawyers memo requires punishing Florida and Michigan with the loss of at least half their delegates, saying that was only one option available to the rules committee.

Stop the racism. Fight the smears.

by CrazyDrumGuy on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:49:11 PM EST
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Well we'll see in 3 days, (none / 0)

and in just 3 days after that we'll know whether this is going to end ugly or not.

Your old role is rapidly aging. Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand, for the times they are a changing.

by Travis Stark on Wed May 28, 2008 at 10:40:27 PM EST
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Actually, that was only one scenario (none / 0)

according to the DNC memo on this. The memo is seen by both sides as "relatively neutral", laying out all the options.

by 4justice on Wed May 28, 2008 at 10:58:18 PM EST
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Re: DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting (2.00 / 1)

I don't think they can go above 50%, but I could care less at this point. It changes nothing, which is why I don't see how it's become such a flashpoint.

by rfahey22 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:20:41 PM EST

It's just a way of buying time... (2.00 / 1)

...you know, because anything could happen in June, July, August...

...and if nothing does, then there's the convention, where...I dunno, she can use mind-control on about 200 superdelegates.

There really isn't a plan beyond the outrage of the moment.

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:24:40 PM EST
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Re: DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting (none / 0)

I think it will end up as some byzantine compromise between Obama, Clinton, and Dean, where each gets some concessions and they can all alternately pat each other on the back and wave their hands quickly.

Donate to Hillary Now!

by guazatragicness on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:25:49 PM EST

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Donate to Hillary Now!

by guazatragicness on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:35:59 PM EST
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FL gets 50% as is (2.00 / 1)

MI gets 50% of their solution.

Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!

by Student Guy on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:44:19 PM EST

Re: DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting (none / 0)

Michigan and Florida are swing states.

Swing states should be weighted more, not less.

Will Dems win Utah this fall? Of course not.

Michigan and Florida should count for more, not half.

by HillsMyGirl on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:44:21 PM EST

Re: DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting (none / 0)

Michigan? A swing state?

Ahahahahaha

Don't let some polls fool you now, Michigan is solidly democratic (and will be even stronger for obama, in case you didn't know there's a lot of african americans in Detroit)

The only reason some polls now are showing a dem losing is because McCain has been given a free ride by the media because of this prolonged primary race.

by Monolithic on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:50:42 PM EST
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Re: DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting (none / 0)

Actually, if I remember correctly, Kerry only pulled MI by 3% or so. Regardless, as a MI voter, we were pretty scared Bush would swing it and worked pretty hard to prevent that.

The future is unwritten

by Strummerson on Wed May 28, 2008 at 10:47:12 PM EST
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Re: DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting (none / 0)

Let me be very clear. Michigan will not be red this November. Your argument for giving MI and FL more votes because they are swing states is ridiculous.

by sweet potato pie on Wed May 28, 2008 at 10:07:46 PM EST
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Re: DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting (none / 0)

I may attend this, and urge all who do so to either join in a protest outside the building where it is held, or in the meeting with signs or chant: "count our vote"

"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States

by DiamondJay on Wed May 28, 2008 at 11:55:45 PM EST

Re: Count the Vote (none / 0)

This actually may be Clinton's worst option - if she wants a floor fight. Counting all the votes as is will simultaneously remove any rationale for a floor fight and give Obama enough of the delegates to ensure his nomination.

I am assuming a 'new' rationale doesn't get invented - admittedly a risky assumption.

by xdem on Thu May 29, 2008 at 06:54:42 AM EST
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