Operation "Rush " the Libertarian Barr

The threshold for a candidate to be included in the General Election debates is that they must poll at or above 15%. My proposal is that we assist the Libertarian candidate Bob Barr in reaching this threshold by pretending to support him - if and when we are contacted for our opinion by a polling organization.
 Rush Limbaugh has had a lot of fun screwing around with the Democratic Primary - I say that we turn the tables on this drug-addled gas-bag.
 I am not a Libertarian, and I don't think this is a risky strategy - the vast majority of Barr votes will be to the detriment of Grampy.

What do you think?
 



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Re: Operation " (none / 0)

I think it would be next to impossilbe for Barr to ever get to 15%.  Most other 3rd part candidates who did this started their campaigns much earlier and i just dont see how Barr gets an media coverage this late to get these kind of poll numbers.

david


by giusd on Mon May 26, 2008 at 10:22:10 AM EST

Haven't we already ginned up the polls (none / 0)

Haven't we already ginned up the polls this primary season?

I don't know about you, but I know a lot of Obama supporters and Clinton supporters have been answering that they will not vote for the other candidate if their candidate is not nominated.

Now, don't get me wrong, I know there are a portion of those that say that that are not lying. But I also think a good portion of them are.

I know I've done it several times. Sometimes when I've been PO'ed at Senator Clinton, and sometimes just to try to get the polls to favor my chosen candidate.

I would never walk into the voting booth and vote for John McCain. Never, never, never. No matter how Hillary Clinton obtained the nomination.


by DaveDial on Mon May 26, 2008 at 10:36:19 AM EST
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Re: Haven't we already ginned up the polls (none / 0)

Well i too will never (3x) vote for John McCain so we can agree to agree.

david


by giusd on Mon May 26, 2008 at 10:38:38 AM EST
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I think it's a great idea (none / 0)

I will participate and when I'm polled I will vote for Barr in the poll.

I've thought about this too. There are a lot of conservatives that identify themselves with the Libertarian Party, or so they say. But Barr is the perfect bridge from conservative to libertarian. Only Ron Paul would have been better.

I wonder who will be Barr's VP. I hope, I hope, I hope it's someone from the far right.


by DaveDial on Mon May 26, 2008 at 10:33:06 AM EST

Re: Operation (none / 0)

The Operation needs a better name, though.


by xdem on Mon May 26, 2008 at 10:49:39 AM EST

Re: Operation "Rush " the (none / 0)

Yep.  His being in the race is a good thing.

For the record, I actually sympathize with true libertarians.  The Republican party has not been kind to them of late.  If they feel squeezed out and marginalized, then having a prominent standard bearer is a good thing.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Mon May 26, 2008 at 10:59:47 AM EST

Re: Operation "Rush " (none / 0)

Alrighty.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Mon May 26, 2008 at 11:37:14 AM EST

I actually have come to some different conclusions (none / 0)

if BO becomes the dem nominee, then ALOT of HRC supporters will move over to Mccain, the conservative christians hate mccain and they will move to barr. Dems for Mccain could bring the republican party to the center. meanwhile the dem party will be far left with bo and the elite running it.


by nikkid on Mon May 26, 2008 at 12:18:59 PM EST

Re: I actually have come to some (none / 0)

You are completely out of your mind.  Loony.  Nuts.  Bananas.

Wow.  Any Democrats who vote for McCain will wind up with pain and sorrow for that choice.  It's yours to make, but jesus that's idiotic.

Bob Barr might take a few percentage points from McCain.  He may well matter.  However, he will absolutely not pull "conservative christians" in large numbers because he's not even running on their platform.

He's running as a L-i-b-e-r-t-a-r-i-a-n.  That means he's running on small government, not necessarily on empowering the religious right.

If being an elistist means I'm able to do even rudimentary political analysis and you're being a centrist means you don't understand even the most basic tenets of the parties and their ideologies, then call me an elitist.

TR or HR me.  I know you, and others will.  But for the love of god, if you say something as completely boneheaded as the above, you deserve to get your head handed to you, figuratively speaking.

Good day.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Mon May 26, 2008 at 12:46:13 PM EST
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Who mentioned Hillary or Obama? (none / 0)

This idea is about getting Barr into the debates - and splitting the Republican vote in November. It works for any Democratic Party nominee.

You response indicates that you appear to be reacting as if you believe that Obama will be that nominee.


by xdem on Mon May 26, 2008 at 01:32:57 PM EST
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Hey, this sounds like a great idea to me. (none / 0)

And please don't forget to donate to Barr if you can afford it. We want him to be as competitive as possible.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Mon May 26, 2008 at 02:03:08 PM EST

Lets not assume he will only hurt McCain (none / 0)

While he may pull a few votes from disaffected conservatives, lets not think he won't get from disaffected Democrats and liberals. barr is a liberal on the War in Iraq and Civil Liberties, issues which are more cared about on the left than right. Democrats may also vote for him because they may have forgotten about the impeachment, or not give a damn. This could include the Hillary Clinton voters and Democrats who don't like Obama for whatever reason, or don't want to vote for a black man. This is likely that McCain won't be seen as a maverick anymore, but as to the right of Barr, which is why some Dem voters could go to him. We hope for this guy at our peril. Its like thinking Perot helped us, the common myth, but he really took equally, according to exit polls, which means he prevented Clinton from claiming a mandate by hindering a majority. This cost him dearly in terms of leverage and legislation, and with a new Dem, we don't need it. If the Dem nominee gets under 50 percent, it allows conservatives to say "ohhh you dems can't get a majority," thus misleading the public. Root for Barr at our peril.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Mon May 26, 2008 at 02:21:59 PM EST


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